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  • micoreil
    6 posts since
    Feb 24, 2009
    Written on Mar 11, 2012 2:12 PM

    In relation to whether Netflix exists on devices in the US but not UK/IRL...

     

    http://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/sony-adds-netflix-to-bravia-internet-video-platform-62159142.html

     

    That press release was issued in July 09, 6 months before I bought my TV...

     

         "In the fall of 2009, Netflix members will be able to instantly watch more than 12,000 movies and TV episodes on Sony BRAVIA Internet Video-capable HDTVs and on previous BRAVIA models compatible with Sony's BRAVIA Internet Video Link module."

     

    This should surely end the software/hardware debate.

     

    I already have Livestrong and Golflink as mentioned in the press release (both of which I have no interest in and never use) so why not Netflix??!


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  • stumpybloke
    stumpybloke
    39 posts since
    Feb 9, 2012
    Written on Mar 11, 2012 2:24 PM

    Let's just be honest here...take one device is the US that has Netflix, and it's equivalent over here doesn't! No other reason than it's not on Sonys high priority list. All this rhetoric means nothing...if Sony wanted it on, it would be.


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  • Catmambo
    Catmambo
    2,009 posts since
    Aug 28, 2003
    Written on Mar 11, 2012 3:03 PM

    Hi Microreil

     

    Big difference between Golflink, Billabong etc and Netflix. The former use one type of security, the latter uses another. The quality and value of the content differs massively also and as Netflix don't actually 'own' the content, the Hollywood studios are incredible and increasingly strict on the types of DRM used.

     

    These are 3 different platforms (TV, Blu-Ray/Netbox & PS3) and are certified independently of one another. Netflix now use Playready - http://techcrunch.com/2010/05/25/netflix-goes-with-microsoft-playready-drm-for-upcoming-streaming-devices/ DRM. Legacy TV & Blu-ray devices have not been certified with Playready support and decryption may also put a massive load on the the chipset. As PS3 is basically a high powered computer, the CPU can easily manage this load placed on it, whereas simpler devices may not find it as easy.

     

    The difference with the US is that the legacy US Netflix service never used Playready, it used our DRM to secure the system.  Now Netflix are standardising and running parallel platforms, with new devices presumably only utilising this system. As they have only just launched a UK system, they have never had localised UK content available in this new DRM package, thus herein lies the challenge -  its not just a case of copy/pasting the US (non-Playready) application (as I had hoped too!) as there would be no content to play in it.

     

    Apologies if I haven't explained it very clearly, but hopefully this clarifies things a bit.

     

    Thanks


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  • ragriffiths
    2 posts since
    Mar 8, 2012
    Written on Mar 11, 2012 4:11 PM

    Hi Catmambo,

    While we all appreciate your efforts in keeping us up to date with the reasons why it's not straightforward to implement Netflix on UK devices (even though other manufacturers seem to have managed it by now), I think the point is being missed.

    All Sony customers want is some kind of information on *what* will be happening (or not happening) and *when*, even if it's only rough timescales at this stage. It's ridiculous to expect customers to believe that a company like Sony have no planning, and have no idea what they expect to be doing from month to month.

    Thanks.


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  • sully1311
    sully1311
    17 posts since
    Jun 21, 2011
    Written on Mar 12, 2012 8:00 PM

    I think that update by catmambo basically means that Netflix definitely won't be coming to 2010 Bravia models then.


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  • stumpybloke
    stumpybloke
    39 posts since
    Feb 9, 2012
    Written on Mar 12, 2012 8:24 PM

    Nor 2011


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  • psiops
    psiops
    9 posts since
    Feb 14, 2012
    Written on Mar 13, 2012 9:59 PM

    this all sounds good and plausible,i am not argueing with it, but it does sound like waffle when i can pick up my mobile phone and stream netflix ,i dont even need wifi ,this is what makes me feel  sony is dragging its feet.also the fact that netflix and starz parted ,and that sony are trying to flog there movies direct via sony entertainment network, i would rather believe in feetdragging and beligerance rather than sony cant solve a basic software problem. if sony are finding it difficult maybe they could ask for a homebrew solution then we would have netflix by easter.


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  • mikefrancis62
    2 posts since
    Feb 23, 2012
    Written on Mar 14, 2012 11:22 AM

    Hi Catmambo,

    So does Netflix in US have a beta version of Playready then?  Para 3 of your last is a little unclear.  What is "this system" in line 3 please?

     

    My Bravia updated today,and as expected Netflix was not evident. Guess I'm gonna have to steal the kids Wii.

     

    Cheers, Mike

     

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  • ukcjm1
    9 posts since
    Feb 3, 2012
    Written on Mar 14, 2012 5:25 PM

    Appreciate the explanation but I'd prefer a 'yes' or 'no' on this. Will Sony devices (Blu-ray and TV) be getting Netflix compatibility or not? When I know I can decide if I need to buy a Roku or something (and maybe return my player or ebay it).


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  • kneejerkreactionman
    kneejerkreactionman
    9 posts since
    Mar 2, 2012
    Written on Mar 14, 2012 11:16 PM

    Thanks for the update. Seems to be a common issue with Netflix on Smart TV platforms as I haven't seen it working with any other TV manufacturer yet. I'll make do with the PS3 and Tablet version until things are worked out. I appreciate you are working on it and that it's in both Netflix and Sony's interest to get it on as many devices as possible.


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  • Catmambo
    Catmambo
    2,009 posts since
    Aug 28, 2003
    Written on Mar 15, 2012 5:02 PM

    Hi all

     

    Its been determined that unfortunately Netflix cannot be back-ported to 2010 and 2011 devices due to the technical and DRM related issues as I have outlined already. Both sets of engineering teams evaluated this for an extended period of time and assuming that some kind of simple patch won't suddenly be discovered, no further work is being carried out on this topic.

     

    I wholey appreciate this is disappointing for many of you, however every technical angle was examined and on this occasion it was simply determined that is wasn't going to be possible.

     

    I can certainly attempt to answer any questions you might have on this though.

     

    Thanks

     

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  • ragriffiths
    2 posts since
    Mar 8, 2012
    Written on Mar 16, 2012 6:52 PM

    Hi,

    Thanks for posting the first piece of actual information we've had on this subject. Shame it's bad news for Sony customers expecting more from a global technology leader.

     

    Do you know if there is a list published anywhere of which models this applies to?

     

    Thanks.


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  • garethelly
    1 posts since
    Mar 17, 2012
    Written on Mar 17, 2012 1:04 AM

    I think that it is truely disappointing that after spending £300, that one of the main reasons for buying this product will now not be added. Absolutely gutted and will think twice about buying another sony product after seeing now they plan to pan off their older models and all the new features i.e nextflix will be applied to their new 2012 models.


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  • sonytvgr
    1 posts since
    Mar 17, 2012
    Written on Mar 17, 2012 11:13 AM

    I have just opened another thread about hide my ass on my KDL tv. (This is a way to watch netflix away from the US).

    After singining in in HMA, I am given three options Download software, PPTP servers, DD-WRT router.

     

    I tried the download software option that I know and used in my pc but I need to choose the operationg system. Which is it? Should I use that option or another one?

     

    thanks!


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  • psiops
    psiops
    9 posts since
    Feb 14, 2012
    Written on Mar 17, 2012 8:44 PM

    so is there any way we can trade in theses 2011 machines for 2012 ones i dont mind paying the difference but i do mind buying a machine that doesnt do what i bought it for,especially as we were told it would do ?


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